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Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
« on: May 30, 2010, 12:37:04 AM »
From "Bergen County Panorama" book (1941)


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Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2010, 01:16:40 AM »
I had never seen that bus terminal image before.  Very interesting. Where is that statue now?

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Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2010, 08:48:08 AM »
I think it used to be by the Library. It's Chief Oratam.

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Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2010, 09:41:43 PM »

Is that the Chief Oratam statue correctly in the entry to the Johnson Public Library.  If so, there's no tomahawk in his hand.

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Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2013, 10:27:26 PM »
This picture was taken in 1945 in front of the Hackensack Municipal Bus Terminal.

(Tracy and his mom. Thanks Tracy.)

FYI: I'm told this is probably just a representation of a Lenape Native American, not Chief Oratam.
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Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2013, 06:44:55 PM »
The statue is now in the Library.  Click to enlarge.  Sorry the second image is blurry.
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Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2013, 09:07:23 PM »
its not the same statue.  look close

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Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2013, 09:57:29 PM »
A significant difference is that the two earlier photos of the statue show the subject's left foot resting on a rock and this rock appears to  be a part of a larger boulder. The library statue shows the left foot sitting on the same type of rock but the statue and rock are set on a metal pedestal. ???

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Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2013, 11:15:47 PM »
Wow.  I didn't look closely. I just assumed it was the same because 4 or 5 people told me the statue was relocated to the Library.  Now we have a mystery. Even better. 

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Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2013, 11:35:52 PM »
Two clues below from the April 4, 1938 City Council meeting minutes and July 16, 2001 City Council meeting minutes.

 

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Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2013, 12:55:15 AM »
More clues:

http://giacalonephotos.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/looking-for-lawrence/

"Mott’s “#53 Indian Chief"
"The statue of Lawrence the Indian was originally a carving done by wood carver Samuel Anderson Robb about 1860 for William Demuth who was the leading cigar store Indian peddler. Demuth published a catalog of his wares; and in 1872, “Lawrence” is listed as “No. 53 Indian Chief.” In 1873, the J.L. Mott Iron Works purchased the design and listed him for $500 in their catalog of statuary."

http://calhountimes.com/bookmark/13350266-A-cast-of-lookalikes-Calhoun-s-Sequoyah-statues-have-identical-replicas-all-over-the-country
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Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2013, 09:02:06 AM »
All hail Chief Cincuentatres of the Numeros Nation!

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Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2013, 09:07:24 AM »
His friends called him Larry.

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Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2013, 10:37:43 AM »
I seem to remember that former Mayor Wyscki donated a statue to the Library several years ago...I thought it was this statue ???


 

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