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Offline BLeafe

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The Edgewater fire
« on: January 21, 2015, 08:27:32 PM »
At a quarter after 7, I thought what I saw was weather-related - a dark cloud perhaps. Then I saw that it funneled down to the horizon.............a tornado in Manhattan?

Shoot first and ask questions later.

My long exposures showed little short streaks of color on either side of the funnel..............aircraft! They were probably TV news choppers, so that ruled out weather.

I turned on the TV and found out that it was a massive five-alarm fire in Edgewater in a building that burned down a few years ago. What a horrible sight.


The image has been enhanced to show the smoke against the sky at 7:20pm. Now - an hour later - I can't frame the entire smoke mass in the camera.


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Re: The Edgewater fire
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2015, 12:50:32 AM »
Isn't this the same contractors who built the Avalon in Hackensack on Hackensack Avenue?  I hope they used better material.  If not, God forbid something similar might happen in Hackensack!

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Re: The Edgewater fire
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Re: The Edgewater fire
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2016, 07:35:10 PM »
I completely agree. 

With the exception of townhouses, defined as attached units with separate exterior unit entrances, wood-frame construction in multi-unit buildings should be outlawed.  And both townhouses and duplexes (side by side duplex) should be required to have cinderblock or poured cement walls between the units. Any stacked units, including "six over six" two family houses with one unit over the other, should have tremendous restrictions on the type of construction materials.

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Re: The Edgewater fire
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2017, 04:35:20 PM »
ANOTHER huge Avalon complex, under construction, burned to the ground today. This time in Maplewood, NJ.  This whole matter of allowing 5 stories of wood construction above a cement parking garage is very questionable.  What happened to the state legislation to address these fire hazards?

http://abc7ny.com/news/fire-tears-through-apartment-complex-under-construction-in-maplewood/1737455/

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Re: The Edgewater fire
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2017, 09:06:38 PM »
Whoa!  What caused this?

Light gauge steel is cost-prohibitive under 5 or 6 stories. Not really sure about the economics of concrete for low-rise construction but I imagine it's much more costly than wood.

Someone needs to invent a cheap, non-flammable wood alternative. 

Further reading:
https://www.multihousingnews.com/post/why-cold-formed-steel-is-a-viable-alternative-to-wood-framed-construction/



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Re: The Edgewater fire
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2017, 11:55:01 PM »
the new building at 100 State st is light gauge steel.  the entire structure except for the floor.   these wooden truss buildings are built like total crap.   they look good on the outside,  but are crap behind the sheetrock. 

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Re: The Edgewater fire
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2017, 10:16:26 PM »
I was in Maplewood today on business, drove by the AvalonBay Maplewood fire site.  About 40% of the complex burned, not ⅔ as reported by the media.  The units fronting on Springfield Ave were undamaged, the fire was all in the rear, along Boyden Ave.

But it was really bad, and they were demo'ing the remains. 

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Re: The Edgewater fire
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2017, 08:42:21 AM »
ANOTHER MULTI-UNIT FIRE in a wood-fram five-story building, this time in Ocean Grove, just across the pond from the Asbury Park boardwalk. The report says three separate buildings went up, perhaps the wind was a factor ?

http://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf/2017/03/large_fire_burning_at_ocean_grove_condos.html