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Re: Hendrix at George's Club 20 (Hackensack)
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2011, 06:33:56 PM »
At the end of the song, the narrator confirms the December 26 date, but says it's 1964 instead of 1965.

In all the discussions regarding the date, I've never heard 1964 mentioned before.

There's also a scroll during the song that says it was recorded at The Manhattan in 1964 - even though the narrator identifies the location as George's both at the beginning and the end of the song.

Nothing like making up new errors and creating even more confusion where plenty already existed, is there?

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Re: Hendrix at George's Club 20 (Hackensack)
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2011, 03:47:12 PM »
Does anyone know what date Hendrix made the return trip to Hackensack to play the FOX Theatre? I seem to recall he did a show there.

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Re: Hendrix at George's Club 20 (Hackensack)
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2011, 05:00:33 PM »
Does anyone know what date Hendrix made the return trip to Hackensack to play the FOX Theatre? I seem to recall he did a show there.

September 19, 1970?  ;)

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Re: Hendrix at George's Club 20 (Hackensack)
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2011, 10:51:04 AM »
I remember school had started and I was in Junior High School. The Garage mod clothing store was still open and it closed in 1969. Robbies Music had just gotten in the paisley fender guitars, and Paul Capazzoli Drum studio was still in business. So I am guessing Sept 1968...?

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Re: Hendrix at George's Club 20 (Hackensack)
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2011, 11:21:43 AM »
Jimi Hendrix did not play at the Fox Theater.

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Re: Hendrix at George's Club 20 (Hackensack)
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2011, 03:26:52 PM »
Yes he did. Hendrix Mgt. struck a deal with FOX and in 1968 took an extensive tour of FOX Theaters thought the USA from September through November of 1968. Others who performed at the FOX: Santana; Mountain; Cactus; Black Sabbath; Manfred Mann; Jethro Tull; and a host of others, as I recall there were also many cancelled shows, including a rumor that the Rolling Stones were going to play but in that case the tickets were never sold.... I used to know folks who had a business in Hackensack and were friends with ushers at the Fillmore East. They always got the best seats and even backstage and after-parties.  There was a push on by these folks (originally from Ridgfield and and Cliffside Park) to get the word out that Hackensack was a great place to play, in hopes that Olive Tree, 6-7/8th and Prozys would do a bang up business like the shops around the Capital theater did. The owner of 6-7/8th was friends with Tim Bogert of the Vanilla Fudge who was later the bass player of Cactus.   They even tried to get Led Zeppelin to play I was at a party at the end of Oakdene Ave in in Cliffside park after the 2nd concert of Led Zeppelin show, and John Bonham and Jimmy Paige can by after the show as we all did. The back yard was the venue and was overlooking a the cliff.  My friend's wife owned a trucking company and was able to [procure the presence of some of the Band and large quantities of food from a caterer. Everyone went home to get their amps, and were trying too hard to get to jam with Zep before John could even set his drums up/ Jimmy was warming up sitting on a Fender Twin, and some clown came along with a dual; stack Marshall and tried to blow Jimmy away at high volume, and he sucked. Jimmy was a gentleman but the neighbors called the cops and dispersed the crowd of about 200 people who were filing in from the avenue a few blocks away. If it were kept a better secret or [people were not allowed to leave and come back Zep may have played at the Fox.
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Re: Hendrix at George's Club 20 (Hackensack)
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2011, 03:50:06 PM »
Yes he did. Hendrix Mgt. struck a deal with FOX and in 1968 took an extensive tour of FOX Theaters thought the USA from September through November of 1968.

Jimi's tour dates are well-documented online.

I find nothing that says he played at ANY Fox Theater ANYWHERE in the world in 1968. His only NJ show in 1968 was at Symphony Hall in Newark on April 5.

If he played the Fox, you should be able to find evidence of that online. Please post if you do.


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Re: Hendrix at George's Club 20 (Hackensack)
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2011, 04:14:48 PM »
I had modified my post (above) BEFORE  I was aware that you replied. Please review again. Sorry :)..  The fact is is not all cancellations and shows are available online. Jerry Garcia  often stayed at a house in Bergenfield to unwind while in the area. I know, bcause I had a beer (actually three Molsen Ales)  with him, the band, and the folks who rented that house. You will not find that online. Just as not all tour dates are published in archives. I can tell you who played at Leon's in the 1940-50s that are super famous but you will never see that online. I was not there but my dentist was Dr. Birchard B Goodall, Jazz Musician Historian and Main Street Dentist. John Entwistle of the Who had come to a house in Hackensack because he liked a Sicilian lasagna and a certain selection of bass guitars. Jack Bruce autographed his prototype bass in Hackensack, but there is nothing online about that., as well. The Free South Africa concerts for the ANC (African National Congress)  were conceived in Hackensack starting in 1984 and the files were picked up by Sully Simlane (ANC) in Hackensack (2nd to Nelson Mandela, in charge of ANC United Nations Mission, while Mandela was incarcerated) and Sully had tea in Hackensack. Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis were instrumental in applying behind the scenes pressure to help fell Aparthied. There are letters someplace. And why? Because I recall it. I also recall the marquis "Jimi Hendrix Experience"  just as I recall Jethro Tull, and Black Sabbath, but the only concerts I recall; actually going; to was Mountain and Cactus. Not everything is written in record, and that is the problem with history...  anyway I'll try and post some pics and proofs, but it's hardly important. I did not see him play. I did not ask my school mates. I did see the marquis and of this I am sure. I can tell you about a number of more recent troubling items, news items that were published but cannot be found on the internet.  Oh yes, and the late Jaco Pastorius gave his first bassn to a Hackensack resident, perhaps the most famous bass player in the world, as did Bill Wyman. Geoprge Benson, who cannot tell a lie also gave a Hackensack resident the six string Fender Bass on his album "Breezin." You wont find that online. Oh.. there was also a non-profit organization stationed in Hackensack that notarized the most famous bass players in the world as having their archives and memorabilia in Hackensack, including many basses. You will not find any of that online, because Hackensdack Politics made is a requisite to bury those horos as if they had never happened. And Rudy Van Gelder wants nothing to do with Hackensack, and does not want his name associated with it. I cannot say that I blame him.
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Re: Hendrix at George's Club 20 (Hackensack)
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2011, 04:52:21 PM »
Typing thousands of words does not change the fact that Jimi Hendrix never played the Fox Theater.




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Re: Hendrix at George's Club 20 (Hackensack)
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2011, 05:07:52 PM »
because it is not online? You are wrong. But suit yourself. I don't care. When they burned the books in the middle ages people who remembered were damned. That's OK. You only want to be right and you don't care aabo0ut the people who remember . I understand. So, Mr. Speciale (Baker) was not gunned down on Fair Street by Machine gun fire on the day of his daughter's wedding. During prohibition the bleach man "Bungalina" did not also deliver grain alcohol to be flavored and bottled at certain establishments. Have it your way. :)

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Re: Hendrix at George's Club 20 (Hackensack)
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2011, 06:52:38 PM »
Proof talks, BS walks.

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Re: Hendrix at George's Club 20 (Hackensack)
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2011, 07:07:13 PM »
How sophomoric...

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Re: Hendrix at George's Club 20 (Hackensack)
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2011, 07:19:03 PM »
While we are on the subject (sort of), Leslie West, guitarist for Mountain, grew up in Hackensack:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_West

He also played with Hendrix in 1969 in New York:

http://home.comcast.net/~gv0000/Mountain_4.pdf

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Re: Hendrix at George's Club 20 (Hackensack)
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2011, 07:38:35 PM »
How sophomoric...

...and how effective!

It cut 100,000 words down to TWO!

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Re: Hendrix at George's Club 20 (Hackensack)
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2011, 05:21:26 PM »
I hope the following is not true: A friend of mine who is close to Bucky Pizzarelli has heard though a mutaal contact that Leslie West is not in the best of health, I think he mentioned a possibility of some heart and or sugar problem... I can't be sure. Nice to send some positive thoughts his way.

 

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