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Hackensack History / Re: Hackensack Street Cars/Trolleys (Photos)
« on: September 02, 2010, 03:23:56 PM »
In this trolley image, the poster doesn't know where it was taken, but thinks it has to be either Hackensack or Paterson.

I don't recognize the scene. Anybody got a clue?



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Hackensack History / Re: Hackensack Street Cars/Trolleys (Photos)
« on: September 02, 2010, 01:56:37 PM »
I decided to dig a little further into that railpictures site and found a few more interesting images.

I think this one is the prize (though it's not on Main St, as the caption would have you believe - it's on Mercer):


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Hackensack History / Re: Hackensack Street Cars/Trolleys (Photos)
« on: September 02, 2010, 01:00:31 AM »
You know what I just noticed about that 1938 trolley car? It's the same car (#5218) in the same yard as the below 1934 car, which started the whole "yard" discussion!

I wonder if it was the yard's only tenant.



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Hackensack History / Re: 1930's Aerial Photo
« on: September 01, 2010, 11:23:42 PM »
[This was also posted in the "Hackensack Street Cars/Trolleys (Photos)" topic]

I just found a page - http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=300912 - that shows a trolley car in the "Hackensack Car Yard".

It also gives a date - August 4, 1938 - and mentions that it's two days before "abandonment of the Hudson River Line", so now we know when that major trolley line ceased to serve Hackensack.


We also now know that Editor's picture could not have been taken before 1938 (or after 1945).



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Hackensack History / Re: Hackensack Street Cars/Trolleys (Photos)
« on: September 01, 2010, 11:16:25 PM »
I just found a page - http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=300912 - that shows a trolley car in the "Hackensack Car Yard".

It also gives a date - August 4, 1938 - and mentions that it's two days before "abandonment of the Hudson River Line", so now we know when that major trolley line ceased to serve Hackensack.



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Hackensack History / Re: 1930's Aerial Photo
« on: September 01, 2010, 09:29:29 PM »
ROUTE 17

Prior to 1927, Rt 17 was Rt 17N, but the route followed local streets. In 1927, it became Rt 2. The route was moved to a multilane divided highway BY 1937 - not IN 1937, so we can't nail down a year. It became Rt 17 in 1942.


None of this helps our quest, but this next bit might narrow it down a little more:

MUNICIPAL BUS TERMINAL

Assuming I've got the right municipal bus terminal, according to this - http://xrl.us/MunicTerm - it opened in 1937, so the image should be from somewhere between 1937 and 1945.

If the original folder is accurate, it would be between 1937 and 1939.



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Hackensack History / Re: 1930's Aerial Photo
« on: September 01, 2010, 08:16:56 PM »
Churches with websites usually have a history link. They're very proud (and very detailed) about their histories.

Two clicks bring you to this:

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Hackensack History / Re: 1930's Aerial Photo
« on: September 01, 2010, 05:11:53 PM »
George Scudder says that the Fox was built after the Oritani (http://xrl.us/ScudderTheaters), so if you see the Fox, you see the Oritani.

According to the below, the Fox opened in 1932, so the maximum time frame for the image to have been taken is 1932-1945.



(sorry, Editor - I was working off Homer's last post on the previous page and didn't see that you essentially said the same thing above)



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Hackensack History / Re: 1930's Aerial Photo
« on: September 01, 2010, 11:33:13 AM »
The image is from before 1945.

The Mansion House is still standing

From a local menu (http://xrl.us/PoorsMenu - pdf pg 14):

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Hackensack History / Re: Hackensack Street Cars/Trolleys (Photos)
« on: September 01, 2010, 01:20:04 AM »
Bob- I meant "train cars", in the yard just east of River Street in the big image.

Sorry. For some reason, I thought you were referring to the eBay tracks image. Your train cars were what I guessed were leftover trolley cars.

Do we know if a train yard succeeded the trolley yard in that location?



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Hackensack History / Re: Hackensack Street Cars/Trolleys (Photos)
« on: August 31, 2010, 11:27:19 PM »
As they used mto say in the old Wrigley gum commercial "Some people call it a spear and some people call it an arrow."

“Certs is a candy mint."

"Certs is a breath mint."

"Stop! You're both right!”



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Hackensack History / Re: Hackensack Street Cars/Trolleys (Photos)
« on: August 31, 2010, 09:57:02 PM »
That was the old Bus Transfer Station.

Nomenclature question, Homer. You're referring to the old place shown below that was on the east side of the street and not the more recent one on the west side between River and Moore, right?

To me, the more recent one is "the Bus Transfer Station", but maybe the old place was also called that way back when.



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Hackensack History / Re: Hackensack Street Cars/Trolleys (Photos)
« on: August 31, 2010, 07:01:10 PM »
I think those are train cars in the lower, center of the image.


You mean "train tracks"? They DO look like train tracks. The auction was for 4 different trolley-related photos, so I wonder if the seller got a train-related photo mixed in there by accident.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Group-4-old-B-W-Public-Svc-N-Jersey-trolley-photos-/160465630645?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255c7f35b5

As for your aerial image..........I think you said that River St came about in the 50s? Trolleys were long-gone by then, so I don't think this image will help with that discussion.

However, I think I see something that could be trolley tracks that seem to come over from Bogota just north of the Susie-Q tracks (there's not enough picture to be sure of that) and they appear to take a very slight turn to the left right before River St.

This could be the old path of the Hudson River Line trolley and that dark patch that it appears to turn into might be the old trolley yard. In fact, something in that yard looks like an old trolley!

But the "trolley tracks" appear to end there instead of continuing to the left and then heading west up Mercer, so whatever's in that yard could just be a remnant of the trolley era - just waiting for progress to sweep it away.

Hey - continuing south on River St, there's a structure on the east side of the street - just past where The Record would be - that I'll bet is the old Municipal Bus Terminal.


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