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Are you trying to censor me, Eric?  What makes you think I'm not comfortable with you deciding what towns that we should colonize?

I wonder why Eric seems so upset that some people are actually found not guilty of things that they're accused of.

I disagree with Average Joe. I draw the line at the unwashed.

STOP!!! ENOUGH!!! That's all I can say to the council slate now known as "Losers Begging for Change, Any Kind of Change...Please". How pompous is Calvin "I deserve to be a councilman because I live in my grandfather's house" Coles? He declared after his latest loss that the real losers are the citizens of Hackensack. What doesn't he get? HACKENSACK VOTERS DIDN'T ELECT YOU ON ELECTION DAY! AND NOW YOU LOST AGAIN! The voters' wishes were upheld by the court after you sued to try to steal a council seat. Based on the actions of you and your associates since the election, I can only assume that you will continue to waste our taxpayers' money by appealing your latest loss in your misguided attempt to undermine our City Council and prevent them from making progress. Here's my best advice: Build your resume by adding 4 more years in your grandfather's house. Then the voters will surely look favorably on your candidacy in 2009. Oh, and maybe you can actually become involved in community activities. There's a thought!

I find it interesting that a substantive discussion deteriorated so quickly when Eric joined in. Maybe it's because instead of sticking to the facts as we perceived them as each of us did, he injected his usual skewed political rhetoric and now I need to correct misrepresentations in every one of his paragraphs.                                                                                 

Neither Devil nor I ever said that this issue shouldn't be addressed because the group raising it lost the election. We believe that the issue is being CREATED for political reasons and does not exist as it's being represented.

I think Irish Eyes summed up how ridiculous the concept of addressing every single person's individual wish is. Since I doubt that our part-time City Council has the time to address 42,677 wishes during their term, I assume that they will focus on the issues that they believe are most important to our community at large. Living in a democracy means that we will have an opportunity to pass judgement on their efforts at the polls 4 years from now. It does NOT mean that council genies grant all of our wishes.

Nothing I have read in the paper or on this forum indicated that the Carver Park meeting was a public meeting. It was held by a private group to address concerns of minority residents living in the central part of town. That's the way it was billed by the organizers and reiterated on this site by itsme. Although I have never personally met Joan Dunn, I don't think she fits the description of the target audience. If that was a really a public meeting, would the Rag have stood still when they were excluded?

Finally, Eric concludes that a Civilian Review Board is necessary because "major segments of the community have bad relations with the police, and they go around accusing the Chief of Police of attempting to run the city like a modern-day Julius Caesar". Where'd all that stuff come from? I think it's more like a couple of dozen people got together to discuss some general concerns about a few police officers and the Chief and those residents are trying to work it all out. Eric should stick to the facts and not project his feelings about the police onto an entire community.

keysersoze made some excellent points about the "We still refuse to accept that we lost" lawsuit. It boils down to this: we can always depend on the "usual suspects" to try to create turmoil in our city. GET OVER IT! If you really cared about Hackensack, you would support your new City Council in moving our city forward rather than continually trying to create impediments to progress.

This is an interesting topic which I have followed on this site and in the Bergen Rag. For those who have paid attention, it's clear that Devil has it figured out. This issue is being created by a handful of political activists who were on the losing side of the council election. From what I heard and read, most of the 30 attendees in Carver Park were candidates or supporters of the council losers. I understand that thousands of flyers were distributed in Hackensack and Teaneck and only 30 people showed up, mostly politicians! Could it be that most residents actually like the job that the police department is doing? Is it possible that all the community policing programs run by HPD have really built relationships with local residents, including minority residents? I can't think of one city as diverse as ours which works and lives together so harmoniously and so productively. And hats off to our new city council who is leading the way in celebrating our diversity with their plan to share mayoral responsibilities during their term. Did anyone else notice that the only ones critical of their plan were the council losers and their supporters? Read my lips, losers: NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY TO DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY WITH DISTORTIONS AND OUTRIGHT LIES, HACKENSACK RESIDENTS LIKE EACH OTHER! THEY JUST DON'T LIKE YOU! THAT'S WHY YOU WERE REJECTED BY THE VOTERS! (OVERWHELMINGLY!)

I was looking through some old postings and came across this one. It's interesting to look at it in hindsight. It really sums up the results of this council election. The winners clearly displayed these qualities, the losers were sorely lacking. Coincidentally, Big Ol' Malcolm Borg lacks them as well. Now I understand why he joined the "Citizens who are Really Angry" campaign team. Does anyone want to take a crack at the Top Ten Things to Look for in a Newspaper Publisher?