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Hackensack Discussion / Re: Overcrowding - Illegal Students
« on: October 28, 2005, 05:22:59 PM »
count on "Mr Wet" to come up with a conspiracy theory !
Was Montesano on the grassy knoll in Dallas?

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Hackensack Discussion / Re: Senate Race: District 37
« on: September 20, 2005, 05:52:29 PM »
so can you get arrested in Hackensack now if you utter the words,"Landslide Kenny"?

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Hackensack Discussion / Re: Senate Race: District 37
« on: September 20, 2005, 08:12:02 AM »
What was i thinking?

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Hackensack Discussion / Re: Senate Race: District 37
« on: September 19, 2005, 11:34:14 PM »
funny thing about story...they spend a lot of time on GOP candidate-who,of course,has zero possibility of winning...yet real news  seems to be at end of story...Zisa alleges fraud among Weinberg supporters from Tenafly..dont know if hes "spinning" but how come when she makes allegations its headlines,when Zisa does,it gets buried?...
malcolm-just cos Zisa is italian and from Hackensack doesnt mean hes not entitled to fair coverage...oh i forgot , malcolm owns the record,nota real newspaper

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Hackensack Discussion / Re: Services for the homeless...
« on: August 20, 2005, 06:26:03 PM »
"Give us your psychotic...your unwashed...your drunkards...your certifiables...your most dangerous...and ,please,make sure they walk our streets and sleep in our parks...for we are Hackensack...repository of the collective conscience of Bergen County..."
(new City motto-to be on statue on City Green of large middle finger)

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Hackensack Discussion / Re: City Council Election (Updated 8/3/05)
« on: August 17, 2005, 08:56:39 AM »
devil,sue Coles?-whats the city gonna get if it wins? the right to live in his grandpas house?
the judges decisin must really"sting" in certain corners...
"citizens for change" are on a bit of a losing streak-zero for lifetime

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Hackensack Discussion / Re: Civilian Complaint Review Board
« on: July 25, 2005, 07:12:16 PM »
editor here is my problem with your deletions-i read eric martindales post both pre and post your handiwork-what you deleted as a personal attack on Dunn,female-was info that i think is fair game-excuse me but as treasurer of all the campaigns attacking our school system-she has thrust herself into the role of a public figure...shes fair game-and before people listen to her opinions they ought to know all about her and her nihilistic beliefs-thats what the first amendment is about ,isnt it?
now as to erics thoughts on a civilian review board...downside eric? try this-cops are responsible for their actions under the law-if they break it -they can be prosecuted-convicted-sent to jail
please tell me what you think a panel of "citizens" is going to accomplish?
i have been posing this question to all engaged in this discussion-is such a board legal?
noone responded so i called a lawyer friend i know and asked her to take a look for me-she says there was a case in new jersey about an attempt to create such a board in newark some years ago-the court ruled that the municipality COULD NOT GIVE THE PROPOSED BOARD THE POWER OF SUBPOENA-and therefore the ordinance was no good-
complaints about our police dept? here are some places to go
1 chief of police
2city manager
3city council
4bergen co prosecutor
5atty general of nj
6 us atty
this public service announcement was brought to you courtesy of average joe

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Hackensack Discussion / Re: Civilian Complaint Review Board
« on: July 23, 2005, 12:46:18 PM »
running the risk of being accused of being"condescending" i think the discussion regarding a police review board and police relationships with the minority communities in this forum has been extremely insightful by most paricipants-
there are however some troubling points
1 did anybody ask the city atty ,or any other atty if such a board is legal?broad statements such as the" council can do anything in the interest of the city not contrary to the law" do not address the problem as highlighted by the article the editor posted about Teanecks lack of success-do you really think that Teaneck collectively is so "dumb" as to not provide their board with subpoena power if they legally could have?
i am not convinced that this is legal-cos if it isnt we re really chasing our own tails-however well meaning
2 to suggest that there is not a SIGNIFICANT element of local politics by the same old group of malcontents which has infiltrated this "movement" is to ignore the obvious-those who pay attention ,know better.
which is a shame,really, because legitimate areas of inquiry and discussion  get coopted and tainted
but like dennis miller says "hey, i could be wrong"

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Hackensack Discussion / Re: Civilian Complaint Review Board
« on: July 14, 2005, 05:22:16 PM »
sayhey-my point is this-im not sure that a town can just create a board and"poof" give it the power to issue subpoenas-im not a lawyer-thats why i suggested to"itsme" that he/she ask the city attorney
without the power to make someone come forward to testify before a board-what gets created,in my opinion,sounds good on paper but accomplishes nothing

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Hackensack Discussion / Re: Civilian Complaint Review Board
« on: July 13, 2005, 01:26:29 PM »
"itsme"hope you checked out editors post of record article regarding Teanecks "police review board'- notice the part of the story that said a problem with it is that board has no subpoena power?
   so you want a board that has no power?
problems or perceptions of problems are not gonna be resolved by pr stunts-which it appears was teanecks motivation
but that their problem not ours

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Hackensack Discussion / Re: City Council Election (Updated 6/5/05)
« on: July 11, 2005, 01:46:20 PM »
"itsme" you sound refreshingly intelligent! however you need to do more homework-our City operates under state civil service laws-hiring and promotions are determined by competitive exams-why do you think that the police and fire departments have been out in the minority communities encouraging people to prepare for and take these tests?
   it is a real problem ,i agree,but to suggest discrimination in hiring is just way off base.
police review board? is that legal in New Jersey?better ask the City attorney
     im not saying that we as a community shouldnt try to address these issues-but we need to get our facts straight first

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Hackensack Discussion / Re: City Council Election (Updated 6/5/05)
« on: July 04, 2005, 10:24:06 AM »
The Record just wont give up...fortunately its become a joke that nobody takes seriously anymore.their editorial on sunday is just another slap at our town.Curiously, they referred to "the June election in Hackensack"-I must have missed that one.was that the election in which their slate won? -as opposed to the MAY election in which the people of Hackensack won?
Good luck to our new council !
(and again,no Pulitzer for the Record)

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Hackensack Discussion / Re: City Council Election (Updated 5/11/05)
« on: May 18, 2005, 10:59:00 PM »
Dunn>>>>>>>>> DONE!
Canestrino>>>>>>>Still no convictions (but the day is young)
Coles>>>>>>>Grandpa throwing out of house
Marin>>>>>>>>0 fer 2-(but whos counting?)
Martino>>>>>>Footnote to history(a/k/a "a bug on the windshield of time")
"6 thru 10? NEVER AGAIN!!!"

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Hackensack Discussion / Re: City Council Election (Updated 5/11/05)
« on: May 15, 2005, 04:53:48 PM »
does anyone know?has Mike Kelly ever attended a city council meeting?-was he present when Joe De Falco was interviewed by the Record? why do i suspect that the answers to these questions are  "no"?
and by the way,i understand that Jack Zisa is a registered republican-not a democrat like ferriearo-yet Kelly-to back up his"conspiracy" theory puts them into political "bed"-together
people have speculated what Borgs hatred is all about regarding Hackensack-some say it is bitterness over the millions he didnt get when Borgs woods(can that be renamed?(how about "De Falco preserve"?)-others say its payback over other issues like zisas opposition to the homeless shelter-
try this one-notice how the records "public enemies" zisa and ferriearo have vowels at the end of their names-far-fetched?
go back and read the papers when the city changed its form of government in the 30s-
what you will find is this-the change movement was led by the wasp north side of town-led by?you guessed it-malcolms father and the record-seems they didnt like the politics of the town at that time-largely in the 1st ward-guess they didnt like our grandparents and their broken english-but guess what?those folks literally built this town-and Malcolm and family are long gone
good riddence!

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Hackensack Discussion / Re: City Council Election (Updated 5/10/05)
« on: May 11, 2005, 01:02:56 AM »
lessons to be learned:
1.quality people will always beat those who would do nothing but tear down and destroy
2.maybe some people would have been better off watching monday night football the last few years
3. the Bergen Record? LOL
4.if i tell you to take "new visions" and give the points-listen to me next time!
and oh yes-there WILL be a next time!!!

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