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General Category => Hackensack History => Online Auctions/Local Images (Moderated by BLeafe) => Topic started by: BLeafe on May 30, 2010, 12:37:04 AM

Title: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
Post by: BLeafe on May 30, 2010, 12:37:04 AM: From "Bergen County Panorama" book (1941)
Title: Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
Post by: Editor on May 30, 2010, 01:16:40 AM: I had never seen that bus terminal image before. Very interesting. Where is that statue now?
Title: Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
Post by: HHS72 on May 30, 2010, 08:48:08 AM: I think it used to be by the Library. It's Chief Oratam.
Title: Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
Post by: just watching on May 30, 2010, 09:41:43 PM: Is that the Chief Oratam statue correctly in the entry to the Johnson Public Library. If so, there's no tomahawk in his hand.
Title: Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
Post by: Editor on March 20, 2013, 10:27:26 PM: This picture was taken in 1945 in front of the Hackensack Municipal Bus Terminal.

(Tracy and his mom. Thanks Tracy.)

FYI: I'm told this is probably just a representation of a Lenape Native American, not Chief Oratam.
Title: Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
Post by: Editor on May 30, 2013, 06:44:55 PM: The statue is now in the Library. Click to enlarge. Sorry the second image is blurry.
Title: Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
Post by: irons35 on May 30, 2013, 09:07:23 PM: its not the same statue. look close
Title: Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
Post by: Homer Jones on May 30, 2013, 09:57:29 PM: A significant difference is that the two earlier photos of the statue show the subject's left foot resting on a rock and this rock appears to be a part of a larger boulder. The library statue shows the left foot sitting on the same type of rock but the statue and rock are set on a metal pedestal. ???
Title: Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
Post by: Editor on May 30, 2013, 11:15:47 PM: Wow. I didn't look closely. I just assumed it was the same because 4 or 5 people told me the statue was relocated to the Library. Now we have a mystery. Even better.
Title: Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
Post by: Editor on May 30, 2013, 11:35:52 PM: Two clues below from the April 4, 1938 City Council meeting minutes and July 16, 2001 City Council meeting minutes.
Title: Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
Post by: Editor on May 31, 2013, 12:55:15 AM: More clues:

http://giacalonephotos.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/looking-for-lawrence/

"Mott’s “#53 Indian Chief"
"The statue of Lawrence the Indian was originally a carving done by wood carver Samuel Anderson Robb about 1860 for William Demuth who was the leading cigar store Indian peddler. Demuth published a catalog of his wares; and in 1872, “Lawrence” is listed as “No. 53 Indian Chief.” In 1873, the J.L. Mott Iron Works purchased the design and listed him for $500 in their catalog of statuary."

http://calhountimes.com/bookmark/13350266-A-cast-of-lookalikes-Calhoun-s-Sequoyah-statues-have-identical-replicas-all-over-the-country
Title: Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
Post by: BLeafe on May 31, 2013, 09:02:06 AM: All hail Chief Cincuentatres of the Numeros Nation!
Title: Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
Post by: Homer Jones on May 31, 2013, 09:07:24 AM: His friends called him Larry.
Title: Re: Book Photos: Mansion House & Hack. Bus Terminal
Post by: Skipx219 on May 31, 2013, 10:37:43 AM: I seem to remember that former Mayor Wyscki donated a statue to the Library several years ago...I thought it was this statue ???